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or not the republicans will move away from the ideologically rigid position which has been the grover/norquist pledge which most of them signed that they will not go for additional revenues. >> reporter: for the first time, even the anti-tax pledge appears to be negotiable. several republicans are indicating they're open to breaking that promise. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid becoming greece and republicans should put revenue on the table. >> reporter: but new revenue doesn't necessarily mean new taxes. >> i would be very much opposed to raising tax rates. but i do believe we can close a lot of loopholes. >> reporter: and democrats say just closing loopholes and cutting deductions isn't enough. >> you've got to raise additional revenues, including tax rates on the wealthy. >> those have to go up? >> they have to go up. >> reporter: in any deal, republicans insist on big cuts to entitlement programs like medicare and social security. now taxes are getting all the attention right now but these talks also need to address the federal de
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